Ron Toland
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  • Rejected

    Got multiple rejections this week.

    One was from an agent I’d queried about representing my novel. That was the fastest rejection I think I’ve ever gotten. I emailed in the query, and 24 hours later I had a rejection in my inbox.

    Second one was for a short story I’ve been shopping around. The editor included feedback on what they liked and what they feel the story needs to improve, though, so I’m taking that as a good sign.

    Meanwhile, I’m trying to fight off a cold, edit my third short story from this summer, and start editing my second novel. Oh, and now I need to find a new market to send that newly-rejected short story to.

    Sometimes I wish I could take a week off the day job just to catch up on everything. Sometimes I feel like I’d need a month.

    → 8:03 AM, Sep 22
  • Writer's Coffeehouse Notes, Aug 2017

    Attended the Writer’s Coffeehouse at Mysterious Galaxy yesterday. As always, I came away with lots of great advice :)

    Many thanks to Jonathan Maberry for running these, and to Mysterious Galaxy for hosting!

    My Notes from the Coffeehouse

    Dangerous to be a one-trick pony; if you put something out that doesn't succeed, don't take it personally, instead ask what you can do that will sell

    Sometimes you have to pick one idea over another because it’ll be easier to sell

    Negativity never helps. Da Vinci Code got slammed by so many people, and yet it was responsible for thrillers becoming the dominant genre on the bestseller lists (which they still are)

    Lot of business discussions happen at comic-con, behind the scenes; he had meetings with agents, game devs, editors, etc.

    If you have a published work in a genre, post on fb page and ask around about getting on a panel at one of these cons

    Science people can be a big draw at these events

    Got to get involved in these things, put yourself out there, to have these opportunities happen

    Henry: started out with small cons, like ComicFest and ConDor, volunteered to put together panels, those smaller cons always need help, another author gave contact info for comiccon organizers, he did the same thing there, volunteered to put together panels, etc

    One thing about moderating: try to come up with questions they haven’t had asked before, avoid the “where do you get your ideas?”, try to ask things that get into the personality of the panelists

    Other writer noticed Henry asks questions that gets debate flowing among the panelists; respectful, but not all agreeing with each other

    Henry: can write in a closet, but might not ever become popular, takes energy and work to get the connections and opportunities for a career in publishing

    Suggestion: if you’re in a writing group, hold fake panels; have one person moderate, two or more be fake panelists, others watch and rotate; it’s great practice for later

    Some writers will ask questions of the audience to get comfortable at signings

    Handle interviews by focusing on what’s fun about it for you; the fun will show and the audience will love it

    More practice: get group together, have one person go up and answer the same question over and over again in different ways

    If you get on a panel, bring something to share out at the end

    La jolla writer’s conference coming up Southern california writer’s conference coming up

    Good advice: a pitch is telling someone how to sell your book

    Maberry: writer’s conferences made him fall in live with writing again, would not be a fiction writer without them

    Queries: never make absurd claims (this will be as big as harry potter!), or slam other books (this is so much better than harry potter!)

    Don’t take pot shots at other books or series

    Round the word count to the nearest 5,000. No need to give the exact word count

    Most novels, they don’t want more than 100,000 words, because of the extra printing costs for a book of that size

    Important to know the right length for your genre; epic fantasy tilts long (150K), westerns tilt short (65K)

    DON’T QUERY UNTIL THE NOVEL IS COMPLETE AND POLISHED

    Henry: timing of query and font doesn’t matter so much

    Maberry: disagree; when you’re querying, getting this stuff right separates you out from amateurs

    Maberry: prefers verbal queries; lots of writers' conferences, find which ones your target agents are going to

    Don’t listen to the myth that agents who have sold X numbers of Y genre are no longer looking for more; it’s bunk; you want the agents that are known for selling your genre

    Intern here from march fourth publishing house, she confirms everything (and suggests checking them out!)

    Pitching in person: the agents there might not be right for you, but it’s good practice, hones your skills, and the agents that are there often come prepared with other agents they can recommend; if nothing else you can get feedback on the pitch

    Keep in mind: the agents are just as nervous about this as you are

    Jim Butcher: queried jennifer jackson and rejected by her, then met her at a conference, and she agreed to pick him up

    Verbal pitches: don’t necessarily have to be pitching a finished book

    #mswishlist twitter tag where editors and agents tweet about what they’re looking for

    ALWAYS HAVE BUSINESS CARDS WITH YOU AND PUT YOUR FACE ON IT SO THEY CAN REMEMBER YOU

    When doing verbal pitch, do not read your pitch, or stick to a script; pitch to the agent, change how you talk about it based on how they react to what you say

    Elements of a good pitch: hook them, give them a sense of characters and the stakes, link it to other books and explain why people will want to read it (best to connect it to what you like as a reader, and show how other readers also like that thing)

    Another good exercise: take a book you know, and pitch it to your writing group, see if you can get to the essential points

    Don’t land too hard on the market piece, becomes too much of a sales pitch; connect it to readers who are real people, and yourself as a writer and someone you want them to want to work with for years

    Pitch practice: genre, subgenre, demographic, main character’s name, and a crisis

    Don’t think in terms of good or bad for your own writing. Think of “publishable” and “not yet publishable.” Take the latter parts and change what needs to be changed in order to make it publishable.

     

    → 7:00 AM, Aug 7
  • Query Time

    Opened the novel this week to continue my edits. Flipped open my notes, looked for the next thing that needed to be fixed.

    There wasn’t one.

    Which means: the edits are done, hooray!

    But also means: it’s time to query agents. And suddenly I have the urge to hold onto the manuscript just a bit longer, to do just one more editing pass, before letting anyone in the publishing world see it.

    That won’t do. So I’ve been researching agents open to submissions in my genre, compiling a list of five to start with. I’ll find more once I’ve heard back from these five.

    I’m already steeling myself for the rejections, but there’s really no choice here: it’s either face rejection, or never have a chance of it getting picked up by a publishing house.

    → 6:00 AM, Oct 7
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